(The Guardian newspaper)
Seriously? And that’s mainstream news on a mainstream newspaper in GB? And I see they are educating the “crowds of” locals; the peasants, the uneducated mass, those local yokels. How revealing, although personally I am a bit confused by the message, and its assumptions, to say the least.
I am intrigued, though, by this misplaced enthusiasm, but when I start to dig, the word misplaced does start to take significant meaning:
. The Guardian
Here’s misplaced: do you really think anyone is perturbed, or even cares? Ridiculous, and self-centred!
Sorry folks, I just don’t buy it. In this form, Feminism is one of the least helpful causes in the fight against rape and violence against women. Rape and violence is not a cause these people should be espousing, sandwiched between underarm hair and “loving parts of bodies.” The underarm hair is a particularly shallow argument. While researching for this post, I counted 3 articles where this was mentioned within minutes. In each article the (avowed feminist) writer explained that yes, she shaved her underarms, but would not if “society” had not conditioned her to do so.
Yep, sorry, again, but the humour of it escapes me. This kind of Feminism hijacking the rape/’sexual’ violence cause is an affront to humanity. Rape is horrible violence for everyone: everyone needs to do everything possible against rape or attempted rape. Oh, but if I am a man I am only supposed to offer suspicious sympathy? Not quite. Male rape is also at catastrophic levels. I shudder to think of what would have happened to two nephews of mine who have ridden on trams without tickets for dares and been caught, in a certain European country where this means prison time – and accordingly a very high chance of being raped.
I remember an attempted rape on me when I was 16 (by a male). Not pleasant at all. And quite different in nature to another incident in my early twenties, after some beer. when I shared a bed with a US Marine friend who resembled Denzel Washington, and during the night awoke to a part of my behind being touched slightly. When I did not move there was no further action. That was not attempted rape. And in today’s world, I know it was my fault for putting myself in that situation.
Marginalising rape and ‘sexual’ violence by making it a part of feminist causes is detrimental in many ways: there are far too many incidents of men being accused of rape – their names and photographs splashed across newspaper pages (the alleged victim is of course spared such affront, as she should be), their jobs gone, their marriages on hold – until finally a court case exonerates the man in question- with indisputable evidence often showing the alleged perpetrator of being at another location entirely at the supposed time of aggression. But the stigma never goes away. This is indicative of the “us” vs “them” aspect of Feminism. There seems to be a certain self-indulgence involved when 3/4 of the world’s population is basically left out of the ‘feminist’ cause, or assumed to be backward because women in this rest-of-the-world do not espouse the same militancy.
I am no boy scout, clearly, but I know it is not one way traffic. In my experience women are pretty good at having a go, and I used to have the black eyes to prove it when my philosophising got too much. Luckily, as a rugby player, I found the game a handy excuse..
My worry is that other 3/4 of the world. I admire women in India so much for their fight for equality in areas western feminists could not conceive of. Indian women generally could teach quite a bit about Feminism to their western sisterin – if they’d listen.
When I asked a group of women with banners proclaiming the right not to shave their legs whether they thought clitoral mutilation might not be on their agenda, I was told that was a ‘cultural’ matter and that they were ‘used’ to it. Pathetic. Clitoral mutilation is practiced by people of all different religions by the way. It is just so horrifying and sad to think it still happens.
Yet we get this. And we get it reported in our newspapers. One way of being admired, in this post-modern world, I suppose. But so silly, for goodness sake, as attractive as they are.
And…nice try below, but it’s called talent.
If there is one group I do share some admiration for, it is the Ukrainian group FEMEN, because they are not out for self-glorification, or for victimhood, but are professional and go all the way in their fight – and they do have a fight.
True, they have angered a segment of women in the Muslem world with their targeted attack on women in Islam, but at least they care, have the guts to say so, and have opened the dialogue, in their way, resulting in muslemwomenagainstfemen.facebook.com – but dialogue is healthy. Agreement is totalitarian.
A somewhat mixed message…(but also a very fine point generally)
And is it a mixed message from me? No, I do not like Feminism in the Western world too much. I especially find the fake militancy of the anglosaxon brand pervasive and too focused on behaving as permanent victims . I admire Indian women very much for the efforts the make to have their voice heard properly. And my admiration for FEMEN, the most militant of all groups, is because they do not hide behind false arguments, are sincere and act globally; caring, as mentioned above, about the world community. They are sincere, as opposed to being manipulators, and unfortunately physically take the knocks. So how can I admire the Muslem women also who have spoken out against the group? I just can. And there are many voices in the Muslem world.
But FEMEN are not feminists. They are Femenistas. To call them ‘feminist’ is opportunistic and degrading. The same should be said of Pussy Riot, and of Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, who does not take offence as a part-time ‘feminist’ when she chooses to, but instead goes to jail for her convictions.
Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, Pussy Riot
The link between today’s feminists and the suffrajettes of the 1920s is tenuous at best. Today’s group is not fighing for liberation, but for a totalitarian form of society, in which the main targets are all too often other women, and even more often successful women. I am tired of women being told they should be role models for other women, tired of the word ‘misogynist’ used as a weapon in print whenever there are two or more points of view (it has never been used against me), or used apologetically in negative semantics (e.g. ‘I am not a…) if someone is stating a controversial point of view.
And no, women in the ‘other’ 3/4 of the world are not ‘lagging behind ‘ Western Europe/North America’ in a’struggle’ against ‘male domination’. At all.
Culturally, I find that women from the Baltic States of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia really have found a way to enjoy the best of the ‘old’ world of chivalry with the modern world of independence at all levels for all. Why the Baltics? In my experience their sociological and cultural approach are admirable – and it may also be geographical, at the eastern frontier of Europe and Russia’s western border. But don’t get me started with how wrong chivalrous behaviour is.
So I think feminists generally have a lot to learn from women in the Baltics, India – and Latin America, but also the Philippines, and Ethiopia, and could start by doing much more standing by their side instead of promoting self-indulgence, combing the media/literature for supposed anti-women sentiment like a thought police, or hiding lack of talent behind redundant phraseology such as ‘glass ceiling.’
And Nadezhda is a gorgeous person, for the way she carries her beliefs.